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		<title>By: marilynn</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-671</link>
		<dc:creator>marilynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cant you stop saying birth mother and natural mother and real mother.  Unless you used a different woman&#039;s egg, if you were pregnanat and gave birth,  - the kid is your child, your the mom, mother, parent whatever.  Can&#039;t we start calling people that adopt, &quot;the people that adopt&quot; &quot;the female care-giver&quot; or &quot;guardian&quot; or something more accurate?  Its just too confusing to call people family when they are not.  We all have people that we are not related to that we call &quot;brother&quot; &quot;cousin&quot; or &quot;auntie&quot; chosen family is chosen family seperate, diffeerent and sometimes far better and more loved - but can&#039;t you just call your self mom?  arent you.  putting a prefix on it makes it seem like you don&#039;t believe it either or as if there are more that one kind of mom.  Biology, genes etc. I&#039;m quite sure that plenty of strangers could do a better job raising my child than me, sometimes I use the TV as a sitter, we&#039;re poor, she does not have riding lessons, I let her sleep in the same bed as me.  I&#039;m gone 9 hours a day at work, I don&#039;t have a college savings for her.  
I take her to the museum, and don&#039;t always give her cereal for breakfast sometimes I make pancakes.  Sometimes I drink, sometimes I swear, sometimes I wish I was a better person.  But every night I give her a bath and comb her hair read her a story and fight like hell to get her to fall asleep so I can wash a damn dish.  I love her, I&#039;m her mom, it does not matter if you could do it better because you&#039;d never do it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cant you stop saying birth mother and natural mother and real mother.  Unless you used a different woman&#8217;s egg, if you were pregnanat and gave birth,  &#8211; the kid is your child, your the mom, mother, parent whatever.  Can&#8217;t we start calling people that adopt, &#8220;the people that adopt&#8221; &#8220;the female care-giver&#8221; or &#8220;guardian&#8221; or something more accurate?  Its just too confusing to call people family when they are not.  We all have people that we are not related to that we call &#8220;brother&#8221; &#8220;cousin&#8221; or &#8220;auntie&#8221; chosen family is chosen family seperate, diffeerent and sometimes far better and more loved &#8211; but can&#8217;t you just call your self mom?  arent you.  putting a prefix on it makes it seem like you don&#8217;t believe it either or as if there are more that one kind of mom.  Biology, genes etc. I&#8217;m quite sure that plenty of strangers could do a better job raising my child than me, sometimes I use the TV as a sitter, we&#8217;re poor, she does not have riding lessons, I let her sleep in the same bed as me.  I&#8217;m gone 9 hours a day at work, I don&#8217;t have a college savings for her.<br />
I take her to the museum, and don&#8217;t always give her cereal for breakfast sometimes I make pancakes.  Sometimes I drink, sometimes I swear, sometimes I wish I was a better person.  But every night I give her a bath and comb her hair read her a story and fight like hell to get her to fall asleep so I can wash a damn dish.  I love her, I&#8217;m her mom, it does not matter if you could do it better because you&#8217;d never do it right.</p>
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		<title>By: marilynn</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-670</link>
		<dc:creator>marilynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I adore this girl thats writing. I reunite parents with their children or anyone related to anyone related.  I do it for free because its terrible that adoptors  want to pretend to be a child&#039;s parents.  If you really want to help someone elses needy child - help someone elses needy child, don&#039;t rename the child a name &quot;you like better&quot; so you can play God (and God to a child is mom and dad).  Don&#039;t refer to the child as your child, find another  description.  Many cultures use aunt and uncle for really close friends and family - thats a lie too I suppose.  We can&#039;t have kids and this kid needs to be in a loving supportive environment.  His parents needed help raising him....something else.  PS if anyone wants to find their kid write me at sftoolgirl@hotmail.com.  I will spend at least an hour a day looking forever and I&#039;ll do it for free, I&#039;ll give you passwords for free and teach you how to search on your own.
  Love to all the mommies and daddies missing their little or big kids.  Love to the kind people who are willing to be a child&#039;s guardian angel when their parents are unable to take care of them - love to you so long as you don&#039;t call yourself their parent.   You may love them more - quite possible, but you will never be the childs parent without biology.  Does not mean your not a heck-u-va guy or gall tho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I adore this girl thats writing. I reunite parents with their children or anyone related to anyone related.  I do it for free because its terrible that adoptors  want to pretend to be a child&#8217;s parents.  If you really want to help someone elses needy child &#8211; help someone elses needy child, don&#8217;t rename the child a name &#8220;you like better&#8221; so you can play God (and God to a child is mom and dad).  Don&#8217;t refer to the child as your child, find another  description.  Many cultures use aunt and uncle for really close friends and family &#8211; thats a lie too I suppose.  We can&#8217;t have kids and this kid needs to be in a loving supportive environment.  His parents needed help raising him&#8230;.something else.  PS if anyone wants to find their kid write me at <a href="mailto:sftoolgirl@hotmail.com">sftoolgirl@hotmail.com</a>.  I will spend at least an hour a day looking forever and I&#8217;ll do it for free, I&#8217;ll give you passwords for free and teach you how to search on your own.<br />
  Love to all the mommies and daddies missing their little or big kids.  Love to the kind people who are willing to be a child&#8217;s guardian angel when their parents are unable to take care of them &#8211; love to you so long as you don&#8217;t call yourself their parent.   You may love them more &#8211; quite possible, but you will never be the childs parent without biology.  Does not mean your not a heck-u-va guy or gall tho</p>
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		<title>By: marilynn</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>marilynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang. wow.  Linda webber&#039;s quote just changed my life.  wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang. wow.  Linda webber&#8217;s quote just changed my life.  wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Kau</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam Kau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LInda W. -YOU ARE CRAZY! THe childrena re abandoned! Jesus is calling us to...&quot;be a father to the fatherless&quot;- and  He &quot;sets the lonely in families.&quot; YOu need to do some researching before spouting off about the agency&#039;s that are providing loving homes for otherwise cast off children! Do you realize that there are at least 1.5 million orphans and counting!!!!!! Get a heart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LInda W. -YOU ARE CRAZY! THe childrena re abandoned! Jesus is calling us to&#8230;&#8221;be a father to the fatherless&#8221;- and  He &#8220;sets the lonely in families.&#8221; YOu need to do some researching before spouting off about the agency&#8217;s that are providing loving homes for otherwise cast off children! Do you realize that there are at least 1.5 million orphans and counting!!!!!! Get a heart!</p>
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		<title>By: Myst</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-656</link>
		<dc:creator>Myst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi C...

It is really sad you can&#039;t have children of your own.  I find it terribly tragic when I meet people who are unable to have babies/children of their own and yet desperately want a child.  It is part of the reason I ended up in the mess I am in now.  I certainly do not hate people for not being able to have children, my best friend is in this boat and she has only wanted to be a mother her whole life.  It is what people DO as a result that I can&#039;t stomach.

 It is not anyone&#039;s right  to expect a mother to live without her child so someone else, a bilogical/spiritual stranger, can be a parent to her child.  Yes, adoptive parents are people and ever since adoption involved infants and the BSE existed, adoptive parents have been seen as the only party. Adoptees were not given a second thought as they were placed into the arms of strangers. Natural parents have been treated worse than animals so is it any wonder they are starting to fight back.  With our new independence and thirst for justice, we have encountered many nasty adoptive parents who have said truly evil and despicable things to us and so have continued our abuse.  Many of us have had enough and we are just not okay with it anymore.

As for t-shirts etc... I cannot believe how far gone humans are if they expect this kind of thing is okay.  How depraved can a person be?  This just proves the point there are many adoptive parents out there who have NOT accepted the fact they cannot have children and have to create a fake idea of pregnancy.  It really is sick.

As for adoption itself... how can anyone support an institution where one party gains something they desire at the detriment of another human being?  Adoption, in particular infant adoption, and excluding foster-adopt is solely about providing the buyer (PAP&#039;s) with a product they want and have been unable to procure naturally (the baby) to the detriment of the mother.  Adoption has seen babies ripped out of mothers&#039; wombs and the baby sold on the black market, murder, kidnapping all to satisfy the desire of someone wanting something they can&#039;t have.  To me, that is terrorism, evil and downright wrong.  If adoption was something that was only about a child or a person (regardless of age) being given an identtiy, a home and a life because they had none due to war, being orphaned etc, then, I would be okay with it.  But it hasn&#039;t been about that for a very long time and so I can only conclude it has had its time and needs to be eradicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi C&#8230;</p>
<p>It is really sad you can&#8217;t have children of your own.  I find it terribly tragic when I meet people who are unable to have babies/children of their own and yet desperately want a child.  It is part of the reason I ended up in the mess I am in now.  I certainly do not hate people for not being able to have children, my best friend is in this boat and she has only wanted to be a mother her whole life.  It is what people DO as a result that I can&#8217;t stomach.</p>
<p> It is not anyone&#8217;s right  to expect a mother to live without her child so someone else, a bilogical/spiritual stranger, can be a parent to her child.  Yes, adoptive parents are people and ever since adoption involved infants and the BSE existed, adoptive parents have been seen as the only party. Adoptees were not given a second thought as they were placed into the arms of strangers. Natural parents have been treated worse than animals so is it any wonder they are starting to fight back.  With our new independence and thirst for justice, we have encountered many nasty adoptive parents who have said truly evil and despicable things to us and so have continued our abuse.  Many of us have had enough and we are just not okay with it anymore.</p>
<p>As for t-shirts etc&#8230; I cannot believe how far gone humans are if they expect this kind of thing is okay.  How depraved can a person be?  This just proves the point there are many adoptive parents out there who have NOT accepted the fact they cannot have children and have to create a fake idea of pregnancy.  It really is sick.</p>
<p>As for adoption itself&#8230; how can anyone support an institution where one party gains something they desire at the detriment of another human being?  Adoption, in particular infant adoption, and excluding foster-adopt is solely about providing the buyer (PAP&#8217;s) with a product they want and have been unable to procure naturally (the baby) to the detriment of the mother.  Adoption has seen babies ripped out of mothers&#8217; wombs and the baby sold on the black market, murder, kidnapping all to satisfy the desire of someone wanting something they can&#8217;t have.  To me, that is terrorism, evil and downright wrong.  If adoption was something that was only about a child or a person (regardless of age) being given an identtiy, a home and a life because they had none due to war, being orphaned etc, then, I would be okay with it.  But it hasn&#8217;t been about that for a very long time and so I can only conclude it has had its time and needs to be eradicated.</p>
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		<title>By: thebronxcupcake</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>thebronxcupcake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRAVO! That is probably the most disgusting shirt I have ever seen. I&#039;m sorry you lost your daughter, and I can say I know how you feel, having recently lost mine too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAVO! That is probably the most disgusting shirt I have ever seen. I&#8217;m sorry you lost your daughter, and I can say I know how you feel, having recently lost mine too.</p>
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		<title>By: aislin13</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-653</link>
		<dc:creator>aislin13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really sorry you were offended by a comment but I do not moderate or edit other people&#039;s words. There are just as many comments that are cruel an insensitive to first parents and adoptees.
One thing you might want to remember is that natural parents are living without their child not just a child. You might benefit from reading more of this blog and others like it. It could help you have an ethical adoption which is so very very rare</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really sorry you were offended by a comment but I do not moderate or edit other people&#8217;s words. There are just as many comments that are cruel an insensitive to first parents and adoptees.<br />
One thing you might want to remember is that natural parents are living without their child not just a child. You might benefit from reading more of this blog and others like it. It could help you have an ethical adoption which is so very very rare</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-652</link>
		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am writing this understanding fully that I am going to be the minority in this blog, and that is totally fine.  I am not trying to be hostile or inflamitory.  

We are in the process of adopting, and have been waiting for such a long time. I respect everything that has been said here as personal opinion as a result of terrible experiences.  I have never lost a child or given one for adoption, so I am in no way wanting to trivialize ANYTHING that has been said here.  I could never understand your pain.

I would like to address, however, the borderline hate speech from tish directed at adoptive parents.  For those of you who have lost children unfairly and unjustly, I am truly very very sorry.  I have no idea the loss and despair that you must live with daily.  That being said, I&#039;m saddened that posts that are so very insensitive to infertile women are acceptable.  Referring to adoptive parents as baby stealing, emotionally fragile, hypersenstive wanna-be&#039;s  is really terrible.  No, we who can&#039;t have children will never know that it&#039;s like to have the nausea, indigestion, stretch marks, hemorrhoids, back pain, urinary incontinence- but I would give anything in the world to have those ailments, because that would mean I was able to have a child of my own.  We are well aware that we are not pregnant, and I don&#039;t think that it represents a below the surface neurosis or resentment...I think it represents something natural in all of us to want our own children.

This is probably off topic, since I didn&#039;t even mention the shirt in question.  For me it&#039;s not about the shirt.  I understand that it is offensive to some people, and not to others.  I was reading this blog because of the shirt- a friend who knows our situation emailed a picture of  the shirt and I researched it, which led me to this blog.  People of every station are reading this, and it is very insensitive and cruel to adoptive parents.  Attack the shirt all you want, I don&#039;t care about that.  But adoptive parents are people too.  We are mothers and fathers without children, who are not lucky enough to be able to have children.  I understand that this is a senstive issue for everyone involved, but making ugly remarks about  a whole group of people who didn&#039;t imagine or manufacture the shirt seems too harsh.  We don&#039;t hate you for being able to have children- please don&#039;t hate us for being unable to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am writing this understanding fully that I am going to be the minority in this blog, and that is totally fine.  I am not trying to be hostile or inflamitory.  </p>
<p>We are in the process of adopting, and have been waiting for such a long time. I respect everything that has been said here as personal opinion as a result of terrible experiences.  I have never lost a child or given one for adoption, so I am in no way wanting to trivialize ANYTHING that has been said here.  I could never understand your pain.</p>
<p>I would like to address, however, the borderline hate speech from tish directed at adoptive parents.  For those of you who have lost children unfairly and unjustly, I am truly very very sorry.  I have no idea the loss and despair that you must live with daily.  That being said, I&#8217;m saddened that posts that are so very insensitive to infertile women are acceptable.  Referring to adoptive parents as baby stealing, emotionally fragile, hypersenstive wanna-be&#8217;s  is really terrible.  No, we who can&#8217;t have children will never know that it&#8217;s like to have the nausea, indigestion, stretch marks, hemorrhoids, back pain, urinary incontinence- but I would give anything in the world to have those ailments, because that would mean I was able to have a child of my own.  We are well aware that we are not pregnant, and I don&#8217;t think that it represents a below the surface neurosis or resentment&#8230;I think it represents something natural in all of us to want our own children.</p>
<p>This is probably off topic, since I didn&#8217;t even mention the shirt in question.  For me it&#8217;s not about the shirt.  I understand that it is offensive to some people, and not to others.  I was reading this blog because of the shirt- a friend who knows our situation emailed a picture of  the shirt and I researched it, which led me to this blog.  People of every station are reading this, and it is very insensitive and cruel to adoptive parents.  Attack the shirt all you want, I don&#8217;t care about that.  But adoptive parents are people too.  We are mothers and fathers without children, who are not lucky enough to be able to have children.  I understand that this is a senstive issue for everyone involved, but making ugly remarks about  a whole group of people who didn&#8217;t imagine or manufacture the shirt seems too harsh.  We don&#8217;t hate you for being able to have children- please don&#8217;t hate us for being unable to.</p>
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		<title>By: Myst</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Myst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok to the moron who is going on about the bible and adoption...  where does the bible condone infant adoption?  Where does it say in the bible that it is okay to take a baby, take the baby&#039;s identity and leave the mother in a mess??  It doesn&#039;t.  There is only one real story of infant adoption in the bible and it ends with the guy deserting his adopters and walking away from them ENTIRELY so you could say the Bible is actually ANTI infant adoption.  It is only people and their interpretation, their desire to see what they want and take what they want that okays adoption in the church.  What is it with people linking God/Bible and adoption???  I just don&#039;t get it.  You obviously don&#039;t know how to read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok to the moron who is going on about the bible and adoption&#8230;  where does the bible condone infant adoption?  Where does it say in the bible that it is okay to take a baby, take the baby&#8217;s identity and leave the mother in a mess??  It doesn&#8217;t.  There is only one real story of infant adoption in the bible and it ends with the guy deserting his adopters and walking away from them ENTIRELY so you could say the Bible is actually ANTI infant adoption.  It is only people and their interpretation, their desire to see what they want and take what they want that okays adoption in the church.  What is it with people linking God/Bible and adoption???  I just don&#8217;t get it.  You obviously don&#8217;t know how to read!</p>
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		<title>By: aislin13</title>
		<link>http://aislin13.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/adoption-is-the-new-pregnant/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>aislin13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so first of all I really don&#039;t care what the bible says about adoption because I&#039;m not christian. That is fine and dandy for you I guess but it means little to me. I really wish people would stop assuming that in a country with freedom of religion everyone will care what the bible says. I don&#039;t bash other people&#039;s religions if I can avoid it so I am skipping the bible part all together.

Second we are talking about DIA on this blog not abused children taken into foster care. Never once have I or anyone I know of said that abused children should stay with their abusers. I am really sick of that being thrown around everytime anyone says something negative about adoption.  DIA and foster adoption are two totally different monsters. I don&#039;t know much about foster adoption so I focus on what I do know DIA.

For the 523rd time the damn shirt is offensive. It degrades natural mothers. It degrades adoptees. It hurts already traumatized people. How do I know? Because I took the cotton out of my ears and listen when people talk. I am also one of the people it offends and deeply hurts. You want to be proud about adopting wear a shirt that says &quot;Adopting&quot; or &quot; In the Proccess&quot;. For mothers in DIA pregnancy is all we have of our children often due to no fault of our own. It hurts when even that is being taken away. So why don&#039;t you go read your bible and see what it says about compassion and empathy. Try walking in someone else&#039;s shoes.

I&#039;m am sure some adopted children grow up in fantastic homes. Some adoptees are abused like the kids in your story. Adoption does not promise a better life only a different life. 

I would love to talk to those 3 mothers you know. See usually us natural moms don&#039;t tell people in our lives about our regrets. It ends up with us being ripped apart so we hide it. Just look at some of the comments on here and you will see why we hide our real feelings. I can almost promise you if they talked to me the tears would start flowing. It is only natural. The human mind was not designed to lose a child no matter what the reasons.

Oh and fear not, we clearly see all the blessings of adoption. Everyone of them is on the adopters side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so first of all I really don&#8217;t care what the bible says about adoption because I&#8217;m not christian. That is fine and dandy for you I guess but it means little to me. I really wish people would stop assuming that in a country with freedom of religion everyone will care what the bible says. I don&#8217;t bash other people&#8217;s religions if I can avoid it so I am skipping the bible part all together.</p>
<p>Second we are talking about DIA on this blog not abused children taken into foster care. Never once have I or anyone I know of said that abused children should stay with their abusers. I am really sick of that being thrown around everytime anyone says something negative about adoption.  DIA and foster adoption are two totally different monsters. I don&#8217;t know much about foster adoption so I focus on what I do know DIA.</p>
<p>For the 523rd time the damn shirt is offensive. It degrades natural mothers. It degrades adoptees. It hurts already traumatized people. How do I know? Because I took the cotton out of my ears and listen when people talk. I am also one of the people it offends and deeply hurts. You want to be proud about adopting wear a shirt that says &#8220;Adopting&#8221; or &#8221; In the Proccess&#8221;. For mothers in DIA pregnancy is all we have of our children often due to no fault of our own. It hurts when even that is being taken away. So why don&#8217;t you go read your bible and see what it says about compassion and empathy. Try walking in someone else&#8217;s shoes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m am sure some adopted children grow up in fantastic homes. Some adoptees are abused like the kids in your story. Adoption does not promise a better life only a different life. </p>
<p>I would love to talk to those 3 mothers you know. See usually us natural moms don&#8217;t tell people in our lives about our regrets. It ends up with us being ripped apart so we hide it. Just look at some of the comments on here and you will see why we hide our real feelings. I can almost promise you if they talked to me the tears would start flowing. It is only natural. The human mind was not designed to lose a child no matter what the reasons.</p>
<p>Oh and fear not, we clearly see all the blessings of adoption. Everyone of them is on the adopters side.</p>
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